Showing posts with label pete nice. Show all posts
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Wednesday, December 9, 2009

Pete Nice (3rd Bass): Riches To Rags



Sports Illustrated recently did a story on Pete Nice. It's a pretty great read and I encourage you all to check it because it's not your typical rapper tale. Below are some excerpts from the article. I felt like After reading you'll feel guilty for downloading Dust To Dust. --Philaflava

Pete Nice struts around a Hollywood soundstage, brandishing a silver-knobbed cane and spitting acid rhymes. "Getting paid to peddle sneakers and soda pop," he raps. "The thin ice you skate upon will break and set ya straight." In his boxy suit and slicked-back hair, Nash, 24, has a vaguely thuggish demeanor at odds with his Ivy League bachelor's degree in English. To his fans he is Prime Minister Pete Nice, of the interracial rap trio 3rd Bass. It is 1991, and the group is on The Arsenio Hall Show performing its biggest hit, the No. 1 rap single Pop Goes the Weasel. It's an extended verbal beat down of white rapper Vanilla Ice, whom it reviles as a culture thief, and it has helped pay for Nash's tinted-window Mercedes and his penthouse apartment in New York City. "Ya boosted the record, then ya looped it, ya looped it," Nash raps, "but now you're getting sued kinda stoopid."

Eighteen years later Nash sits in a café in lower Manhattan. At 42 he wears cuffed khaki pants and a short-sleeved button-down cotton shirt. He lives in a rental home in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., with his wife and young son, and he has driven a sensible Honda SUV to this meeting. Since his moment of fame as a rapper for Def Jam Records, Nash has achieved a markedly different kind of renown -- among hard-core baseball memorabilia collectors who wouldn't know Def Jam from Def Leppard. Over the past two decades Nash has become known as the most prolific source of the rarest old-school material, especially from the 19th century.

But on this afternoon in late July the tough-guy rapper turned baseball historian is mired in a widening scandal over the holiest relics of America's pastime. Nash recently lost a lawsuit against a leading memorabilia auctioneer in which he admitted to fraud, and, according to sources, the FBI is investigating whether he sold forged memorabilia. (Nash declined to comment on the investigation.)

Long before his unlikely rise to fame as a white rapper, Peter Nash was obsessed with the history of baseball. MC Serch, also of 3rd Bass, recalls the first time he visited the home of Nash's parents on Long Island, in the late 1980s. "Here was this 20-year-old kid," Serch says, "and he had all this stuff: three-fingered mitts and Ty Cobb baseball cards. It was his passion, more than I think emceeing was his passion."

By 2006 Nash cut the figure of a prosperous entrepreneur who might still be flush with music-business royalties. He drove a Mercedes SUV and owned a lakeside house in Cooperstown. But in fact he had acute money problems. Both the wax museum and Dreams Park partnerships had dissolved in lawsuits. His 3rd Bass royalties came to only about $5,000 a year, and an attempted reunion of the group, which included a performance at Woodstock 1999, never gained traction. Still, Nash showed no interest in a 9-to-5 career. "He never lost the celebrity attitude," says Fraser, who says he fell out with Nash after he refused to sell Nash the 1912 Red Sox trophy. "A regular job was beneath him."

Although Nash received a settlement in the Dreams Park litigation, the money went to satisfy legal and other debts. The house in Cooperstown was repeatedly under threat of foreclosure, the repo man was after his car, and Nash took to calling up friends for help in paying his basic living expenses: rent, a tank of gas, diapers, the phone bill. He seemed to be constantly juggling complex triangular deals in which he borrowed money (sometimes upwards of $100,000) using his baseball memorabilia as collateral. Sometimes he used the cash to hold off creditors, sometimes to buy more memorabilia.

"The only thing Pete failed at was being able to live without an object," says another collector and former friend of Nash's. "That's what always got him in trouble, because when he had money, he always needed the next thing -- and who can survive that, if you don't have a job?"


Nash, for his part, dismisses a suggestion that a 3rd Bass reunion might help solve some of his problems. "Serch has asked me to do certain things," Nash says. "It's not like there's any huge money in doing it. There's a lot of interest, but I mean, it's nothing I have that much of an interest [in]."

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Monday, October 26, 2009

In Retrospect - Pete Nice & Daddy Rich - Dust To Dust

This isn't the first time I touched this topic on T.R.O.Y. because for some unexplainable reason I'm attached to this album. '93 was a year of classics, but it also contains many great obscure releases that fell by the wayside too. Let me start off by saying I was never a huge 3rd Bass fan. They had a few tracks I've enjoyed but for the most part they (mainly Serch) always came off a bit corny to me. Pete, not so much, he always had that cool swagger that made him a little less contrived than his counterpart. When the group broke up I don't think anyone shed a tear. They had a good run but their time was over. Hip-hop was moving in a different direction and did not contain 2 white boys rapping about the same humdrum shit for another 6 years.

No one can deny the hits they had, whether it was "The Gas Face," "Pop Goes The Weasel," "Steppin' To The A.M" or the Marley laced "Product Of The Environment." Two white dudes lucky to have careers in a black dominated sport enjoying every minute of it. They were not poet laureates. One rapper was the self-loathing lighthearted guy, while the other played the too cool for school steelo. Together it worked and with the help of Prince Paul, The Bomb Squad and some respectable co-signs from people ranging from EPMD, Henry Rollins to Russell Simons 3rd Bass become a legit rap act.

So where does that leave us? '92 the group officially split, Serch was dabbling in the production game with female rapper Boss, The Zebrahead soundtrack, and let us not forget finagling his way into one of the most important rap signings of all-time (Nas). He dropped a lackluster solo titled Return of the Product, which included the hit "Back To The Grill" with Nasty Nas, Chubb Rock & Red Hot Lover Tone. But other then that track, which gained notoriety for its use by Kid Capri Def Comedy Jam, the album fell flat.

A year after the breakup Pete Nice got the call from Russell Simmons and before you knew it "Dust To Dust" was in stores. With the help of friends K.M.D (MF Doom), Sam Sever and The Beatnuts, the production on Dust To Dust was really gratifying. Samples ranging from Velvet Underground. Iron Butterfly, X-Clan, Otis Redding, Ramsey Lewis to Frank Sinatra combine to bring forth an eccentric background for Pete Nice's verbals. I still can't tell you what DJ Richie Rich actually did. Street cred employee?



Tracks like Rat Bastard, Kick The Bobo, Verbal Message, The Lumberjack, The Rapsody, 3 Blind Mice featuring Kurious or Rich Bring 'Em Back" featuring the debut of Cage help balance out the album. Check it out! --Philaflava



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Where is Pete Nice today? Well after quiting the rap game Pete started his own Baseball memorabilia store in Cooperstown. In 2003, he published his first book, Baseball Legends of Brooklyn's Green-Wood Cemetery, under his real name. He has also been working to secure some property for an official grave site of Negro League players.

In early 2008, Pete opened McGreevy's 3rd Base Bar, a sports bar in Boston with Dropkick Murphys' band member Ken Casey. The bar recently was named Best Sports Bar In Boston by Citysearch.






Saturday, November 15, 2008

We Burrow Five Times In The Underground


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Cover - Underground Flow (remix)
De La soul - Breakadawn (Foncett Power remix)
Grand Puba - A Little Of This (Stud Doogie remix)
Mama Mystique - Tremendous (QBall & Curt Cazal remix)
Pete Nice & Daddy Rich - Kick The Bobo (Beatnuts remix)

Shout out to Vaporized for the upload. -- Thun

Thursday, October 23, 2008

Pete Nice & Daddy Rich - 3 C's


Corny, cool and contrived--that's the most accurate way of describing Dust To Dust in 2008. While the many who'll have heard this for the first time today may not appreciate the album, it's those (like myself) who invested in Dust To Dust back in '93 that'll rediscover the album's greatness. You might think it's impossible to be both corny and cool, but I assure you it's not. Pete Nice was the closest thing white people had to Big Daddy Kane in the rap world. I don't mean that lyrically, rather stylistically. Pete Nice was always the "cool" one out the crew while MC Serch was always that goofy self-hating poseur that could have made Kamron (Young Black Teenagers) look like Asher Roth.


Dust To Dust is a great album for the same reasons it can be considered corny. The rhymin' is elementary at best and sometimes flat out predictable. The album dropped at a time when rhyming wasn't always sophisticated. Complexity didn't exactly sell and I don't think any of us would ever mistake groups like 3rd Bass or The Beatnuts for wordsmiths, but it didn't matter because they were beyond witty, had an infectious swagger and most importantly dope production.


A year after the breakup of 3rd Bass and the debut album of former member Serch, Pete Nice got the co-sign by Russell Simmons to go dolo. Some might even remember seeing Russell in the "Kick The Bobo" video that sported a Serch lookalike getting beat down with a bat. Dust To Dust came and went with the quickness. Many people had already dismissed 3rd Bass as a gimmick and while Serch receive some attention from his ill-collabo "Back To The Grill" featuring Red Hot Lover Tone, Chubb Rock and Nasty Nas, it was Pete Nice who delivered the better album. It's true that as much as Serch had help, Pete Nice did as well, enlisting friends K.M.D, Sam Sever and The Beatnuts for production. Psycho Les and Kurious both have guest spots and Cage debuts (1993) for the first time on "Rick Bring 'Em Back."

If you enjoyed Kurious' "A Constipated Monkey" then there is no reason you won't enjoy this. They're practically identical albums. This one is just the "white" version.

Personal favorites:
Rat Bastard
Kick The Bobo
The Lumberjack
The Rapsody
Outta My Way Baby

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--Philaflava

Kick The Bobo