Steppin' to the plate today we have a bunch of hard hitters out of the bread belt. I am bringing you volumes 3-5 in my midwest series First to bat is number three which is the only one of 21 volumes with a few tracks that came out in 2000 or later. Beginning at volume 4, the rest of them are strictly 90's selections. If you need the 1st two volumes these are the links:
http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2009/05/midwest-starting-line.html
http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2009/12/midwest-series-volume-2-1989-1997.html
Volume 3 --
One of my favorite cuts here is definitely 'Phantoms Of The Opera'. I know this classic banger has been heard around the way for years and I had to include it here. Essential underground vs the industry type rap. I can't get enough of the beat on 'Two Trains'. Maybe the sound is not your thing but it's played around here all the time. Also check out the beat on 'In Sync'. If anyone wants to hear it I'd be glad to post the full 'Weightless Recordings Battle Raps & Freestyles' release one of these days. Track 6 is one the nicest cuts from that collective. Here's a link and the tracklist.
http://sharebee.com/a35576a2
01 (5:17) Kanser - Love In Your Face (Minnesota 1998)
02 (3:16) Kankick - Live As It Gets (Ft. Medaphor) (2001)
03 (5:08) All Natural - Phantoms Of The Opera (Ft. Allstar) (Chicago 2001)
04 (5:21) Denizen Kane - Two Trains (Chicago 2002)
05 (4:19) Hypnotic The Native Sun - War Of The Gods (1998)
06 (5:14) Manifest, Inkwell and Blueprint - In Sync (Scientific Remix) (Minnesota 2001)
07 (3:49) Qwel - If It Ain't Been In A Pawn Shop, Then It Can't Play The Blues (Chicago 2000)
08 (4:10) Jack Frost - In It 4 Life (1999)
09 (3:47) Black Project - Crown Me (1999)
10 (4:00) Ghost Team - Revenge (2000)
11 (4:48) Brother Ali - Nine Double Em (Minnesota 1999)
12 (0:22) Weightless Recordings Battle Raps & Freestyles - Freestyle 7 (Minnesota 2001)
13 (4:08) Matlock - Get Outta Dodge (Chicago 2002)
14 (4:00) Rubberoom - Street Theme (Filthy Mix)(Chicago 1997)
15 (12:23) The Primeridian - Tatuduhendi (Reprise) (Chicago 2005)
16 (8:20) Organic Mind Unit - (Bonus Track) Hard......Complicated (Minnesota 1997)
Volume 4 --
Kinda on the gangsta tip this time. Playya 1000 is the kind of sound that makes me crank the system. Maybe it's the drawl, maybe it's the infectious beat. Whatever, turn it up. Another one of my favorite tracks is number 6. K-Stone was a veteran of the Detroit Scene. If anyone out there can provide us a comprehensive disograpny of his work that would be dope. I know he had at least 5 releases I can think of. Next up is that timeless midwest anthem from D 2 Tha S. 'Dissin these fools'. Cold blooded lyrics, a moody beat, what more do you need ? If you like that old school delivery don't sleep on Awesome Dre and The J To The D. Here's a link and the tracklist.
http://sharebee.com/b2ee401d
01 (4:52) Big Bur-na - Addikted To Da Streetz (Tulsa 1995)
02 (5:17) Devious Steve - Where I Stay (Indiana 1994)
03 (3:58) Playya 1000 - Foe Da Mil Ticket (Tulsa 1992)
04 (5:16) 16 Keys - Murder One (1994)
05 (3:57) Menace To Society - Menace Niggaz (Michigan 1993)
06 (4:08) K-Stone - Niggas From Detroit (1994)
07 (4:57) D 2 Tha S & Toxic (Of The Chamba) - Dissin These Fools (Chicago 1995)
08 (2:50) Romeo Ryonell - Iskyspook (Kansas City 1994)
09 (3:59) Blu (Of Criminal Division) - I Rush Niggas (Michigan 1993)
10 (4:02) Swolts - Casanova 1973 (Chicago 1996)
11 (4:10) Thawfor - Dagger Of The Mind (Chicago 1995)
12 (5:02) Chill Will - In The Park After Dark (Chicago 1995)
13 (3:58) Insane Rhyme Slangaz - Side Effects (Flint 1995)
14 (5:36) Awesome Dre - Deadlier Than Strichnine (Detroit 1993)
15 (5:14) The J To The D - Fuck That (Detroit 1991)
Volume 5 --
Volume 5 is one the volumes I like most of all 21 midwest compilations I've put together. The remix for 'Suicide' is dope as hell. I'm not really a fan of Twista but this track is tight. Another standout is 'Detroit Madness'. This is probably the best thing on his album. To be honest Daddy Hill can't rap his way out of a paper bag but the cheesy beat and female background vocals have me hooked like crack. Make sure to listen up when 'Streetwise' comes on. This is one of the doper selections from 'The Hidden Talent Disk'. The album is a bit 'mixed' and unfortunately lives up to it's name on a few songs. Sometimes I like to rescue good cuts from the sea of mediocrity by which they are surrounded so I don't forget about them. Here's a link and the tracklist.
http://sharebee.com/98741df9
01 (1:26) Twista - Suicide Remix (Chicago 1992)
02 (1:18) Capital D & The Molemen - Midnight (Chicago 1999)
03 (5:12) The Ill State Assassins - Hardcore Crew (Chicago 1995)
04 (3:31) B.O.E. - Black On Earth (1995)
05 (3:14) M.F. 911 - Shots Cold Gunnin' (Detroit 1993)
06 (4:37) Daddy Hill - Detroit Madness (1997)
07 (3:40) Six Pak - Living Nightmare (Chicago 1995)
08 (4:08) Da Flint Connection - Death B-4 Dishonesty (1994)
09 (3:48) Nettwork - Walkin' Thru The Graveyard (Flint 1994)
10 (3:33) Awol - Trilogy (Detroit 1993)
11 (6:06) The Speedknot Mobstaz - One Shot One Kill (Chicago 1995)
12 (8:20) Hynpnotic The Native Sun - Kallsiti 3K (Minnesota 1998)
13 (1:46) Magnetic Personalities - Insectacide Prelude To A Dark (Minnesota 1995)
14 (3:55) B-Movie Fiendz - Streetwise (With Mic One & Thawfor) (Chicago 1997)
15 (3:53) Fo Deep - Mutha Nature (Flint 1994)
16 (3:51) Shade Luv X - Local (Minneapolis 1993)
17 (4:01) H.M.H. - Yo Play Radio Joint (Michigan 1994)
18 (3:00) Esham - Some Old Wicket Shit!!! (Detroit 1990)
There's a fair amount of music here. I'm sure some of these groups are familiar to you already, I'm hoping a few will you'll be playing for the first time. Leave some comments, let me know which cities you're interested in and who you want to hear more from.
For those who missed it, I posted volumes 6-9 here:
http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2008/10/thought-id-post-some-midwest-material.html
Thanks for listening, enjoy!
--Schenectadyfan
Hey just a small issue...on your volume 3, you have a cut from Hypnotic the Native Sun on there.
ReplyDeleteNow if it's the same Hypnotic I'm thinking of (and he had an album in 1998) he's actually from the Bay Area, California and was with a crew named Kemetic Suns (Fundementals, King Koncepts, Karma Chi, Kirby Dominant, Audiotrons etc.)
yo kid me and the peeps love these keep it up peace from chi deep in the basement makin beats
ReplyDeleteSchenectady, great job on this series! Your regional compilations are tight, man. I'm loving the diversity. Thanks man.
ReplyDeletethat is the same hypnotic from la.. its from his album internal symmetry.. it would be nice if these comps were actually put together with some knowledge as opposed to just grabbing a bunch of random mp3s and putting them together. easiest way to make sure you don't make mistakes like this? rip shit that you own, instead of just posting mp3s you collected.
ReplyDeleteNo one is forcing you to look at this page dude.
ReplyDeleteI do these regional compilations because I enjoy doing so, not to be 100 percent accurate all the time. And just so you know, I DO rip music for my compilations, all the time. These compilations ARE put together with some knowledge, but it is not encyclopedic. Sometimes information on artists is not readily available. Maybe instead of whining about how one track from the 3 compilations I posted is not midwest you could recognize the amount of time and work I DO put into these compilations. Then again, I am sure you are one of those people who leave these kinds of comments to feel smug, but not because you downloaded the music i shared or bothered to appreciate all the selections which ACTUALLY are from the midwest.
@spitler: You're pathethic, lol. The guy rips loads of music which he shares onto his compilations as if that matters anyway? I've always dug schenectadyfan's compilations because he does it regional for a change and it's interessting to get knowledge on where the groups/artists were from.
ReplyDeleteObviously with 310 different compilations being made in total as of now there ought to be some tracks which is avaliable on the internet for download or has been in the past.
What the fuck is your problem man? I don't get it.
Spitler sounds like Hitler who spits instead of swallows.
ReplyDeleteschenectadyfan:
ReplyDeleteyou're right, nobody is forcing me to read this page, but that's the beautiful part of the internet. i have the freedom to read it all i like it, just as i have the freedom to criticize you for 'making' compilations which are nothing more than you scanning your hard drive for mp3s. The fact this website has the audacity to ask for donations when you're simply an mp3 aggregate is mindblowing to me. If you actually owned any of these records, all the information is there, but because you just downloaded mp3s, you simply don't know. and this is not the first time either. i mean, where did you get the info that he was from mpls? was that on the cd? cause its not on my cd. as i stated above, with a few notable exceptions, if you owned the record/cd/tape, its pretty fucking crystal clear where shit is from.
this is just fucking lazy, that's all. stop pretending like you're doing a lot when all you're doing is making random compilations out of mp3s you downloaded. anyone can do that, i guess i expect better from the website, forgive me for having standards.
areal:
yes, i agree it is interesting to get knowledge/info on groups/artists and where they're from.. thats exactly my point. he has little to no knowledge of anything he posts (as has been pointed out by people on previous comps) so what exact knowledge is he dropping? its no different than me taking 50 random mp3s i downloaded off the internet, calling it 'northeast rap comp' and then ragging on people for pointing out shit that i simply don't know. maybe if he didn't do 310 compilations, and actually focused on original content, as opposed to stuff he's collected from the internet, we wouldn't see this problem.. perhaps that is my point? I could use a fraction of those comps if they actually came from the dude himself and had knowledge dropped on me as opposed to what he's doing now.
anonymous:
it is exactly like hitler, cause i give the gas face to corny dudes like you and schnect.
What is it with the hate on mp3s? If he rips shit from his own collection it's still going to be in mp3 format. Do you expect him to give you his own damn CD's?
ReplyDeleteno hate on mp3s, whatsoever.. my hate is towards someone doing next-to-no-work and then taking credit for other peoples work (the people who actually ripped the tracks) and on top of that having the audacity to ask philaflava readers to donate. so, to clarify, my beef is: taking credit for other peoples work as he clearly did not rip these tracks himself (check out other similiar blogs where people provide ORIGINAL content, not some aggregate of mp3s that schnect has collected since his soulseek days) and then on top of that, to ask people to donate for this 'service'.. thats just un-fucking-believable to me.. at no point has he put in any effort in these volumes beyond collecting mp3s.. maybe i'm just old school where work was real and actually involved effort and wasn't just collecting a bunch of other peoples works and claiming it as your own.
ReplyDelete"my hate is towards someone doing next-to-no-work and then taking credit for other peoples work (the people who actually ripped the tracks) and on top of that having the audacity to ask philaflava readers to donate."
ReplyDeletespitler: There's so many ways that you are wrong here that I don't even know where to start, so I'll start on your last comment.
1. Donate: Nobody has been asked to donate. There has never been any ultimatums made and/or begging done here. There is a button that people can press if they would like to help maintain our file sharing accounts, they can. If they don't want to or can't, they don't have to, nothing will change here. For the record, I pay $70 a year to megaupload, rapidshare, mediafire, and divshare, EACH. That's $280 a year to keep our readers laced with dopeness. And you sit there and complain, you insufferable little prick. Of course, anonymously, you do this, "spitler".
2. "Hardly no work": You didn't even believe this yourself when you typed it, did you? If so, you are more than welcome to compile THOUSANDS of regional specific compilations like s.fan has and make your own little blog of them. But make sure you own every single mp3 first, faggot.
I think it's a little tougher to do the compiling than the ripping. I know this because I do both.
You are wrong about much more, but I am not beat to sit here and plot it all out for you. You sound like a menstruating ho. Drink some cranberry juice and relax.
And for the record, I don't speak on behalf of the blog on my last comment. That is just how I look at the donate thing.
ReplyDeletespitler,
ReplyDeletei spent over 300 dollars of my OWN money to put together the 6th volume of bmore/dc series. that is just ONE example. i have spent so much money on music i rip for my compilations that i have lost track of my investment. also if you have not noticed i have provided a fair amount of 'original' content on the blog here too. fact is, i spend my money all the time on music, some of which i use for my compilations. you are so far off base it's no wonder you look like a clown. no-one else is doing these regional compilations and it's not always possible to get the right info at the time i am putting a compilation together. do me a favor and go find someone else to whine out. this is not your playground and it's not recess kiddo.
i'm so far off base? really? as kool keith once said, i don't believe you. if you actually owned these things you would know where they're from. its plain and simple.. like when you put frankenstein in your new york compilation (no, i didnt jump on your first fuckup, others did that to you).. if you actually owned the record, everything points to the fact that it was made in toronto. ditto for the hypnotic cd you obviously downloaded. your complete lack of information on any of these proves my point so its no some whiny, egotistical rich kid talk.. i'm pointing out the obvious.. and i don't see how anything i've done points to me being egotistical, rich or a kid? i'm not the one resulting to name calling and whining about quitting this blog.. thats some whiny kid shit on you son. as for rich? unlike you, i actually been supporting hiphop all my life, so these records i bought when they came out, cause i dj and made money dj'ing, thus i could support music by buying it, not downloading it. if that makes me rich, i guess we just have very different opinions on it. you want to prove me and everyone else who has made the same accusations towards you wrong, post pictures of these records/tapes/cds that your rips are from. i don't need individual pics.. just take one of some of what you've posted and i'll retract what i said. hell, post a picture of your hypnotic cd, so i can see exactly where it says anything that doesn't clearly point to the fact that he's from la. ditto for that frankenstein record. if i'm so offbase on all this, prove me wrong instead of you whining like a little bitch calling people bitch kid names.
ReplyDeleteoh and to address verge.. couple issues with what you said:
ReplyDeletethere is no ultimatum, you're right, but there is still a donation paypal button. so you're soliciting donations for other peoples work.
and no, compiling mp3s is not more work than ripping, and for a second i thought you actually did rip records, but you obviously don't if you think that. ripping records takes time and patience, something that you and s.fan seem to overlook when taking credit for other peoples work (read: ripping the records/tapes/cds) instead of searching your itunes/winamp/whatever the fuck you use to 'compile' these compilations. as for your offer for me to make these compilations.. if you're going to compare it to the work of s.fan, sure.. cause i can just as easily throw together a bunch of random mp3s from my itunes and call it UNDERGROUND SEATTLE RAP .. and then when people call me out for it not being from seattle, i'll just call them whiny bitches.
as for anonymous? how is spitler any more or less anonymous than "verge" or "shitfan"? you guys are really reaching here.. in fact verge, i thought you just bought records from me on ebay, so you know my full name, aint no need for anonymity, just as i know yours. you guys are the bitches on your periods, not being able to address proper criticism in a mature way. i think yall need some cranberry coolers or some shit for your own period issues.
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ReplyDelete" just take one of some of what you've posted and i'll retract what i said "
since i mentioned baltimore/dc 6 in particular i will post 3 pics from the 14 out of 21 tracks from my own personal connection.
http://img63.yfrog.com/i/00capitolpunishmentcrew.jpg/
http://img138.yfrog.com/i/00diffarentkombonationi.jpg/
http://img44.yfrog.com/i/nmycitytapewadc1992byn.jpg/
like i said to begin with, no-one is forcing you to look at our blog. if you do not like what you see then go away. it is that simple. i never guaranteed that my regional compilations are always geographically accurate. that does not change the fact that i spend a shitload of time, energy and money to share music with people like you from whom i ask nothing in return. if you are unable to recognize that at a basic level then there is no point trying to communicate with you. go away.
spitler, I don't recognize your name from ebay or anywhere else I buy records from. But I guess it's possible being that I do buy records on the reg. Not that it means anything at all. Music is music, regardless of format.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I do rip stuff on a regular basis. It is not difficult but yes, it is time consuming.
I would think it's even easier for dudes who have USB turntables, but I have a pain in the ass setup, so it is indeed time consuming.
But I can definitely state with confidence that the VLS posts that I've done have been much, much easier than any other blog posts I have done.
You're really minimalizing and completely dismissing s.fan's work here. I get what you're saying about not all of the mp3s being ripped by him. But it's clearly not "just a bunch of random mp3s thrown together in a folder".
He does his best to try to put them in their specific regions, which nobody on the internet is doing and many appreciate. Some of them he put together years ago before he had further info and sometimes he's off about a couple of them. But c'mon now, a few mistakes, in the grand scheme of this cat's work, is nothing.
Certainly nothing to rant about on a blog that blesses heads with dopeness on a daily basis.
The donate thing, well, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on that. I would say mostly nobody even notices the button is there and certainly not many have clicked it.
Nobody came at you sideways until you made a comment disrespecting this man's work.
"there is still a donation paypal button. so you're soliciting donations for other peoples work."
ReplyDeleteAnd, c'mon, this is bs. There has never, ever been
a post on here that was a copy and paste job from another blog, without putting our own spin on it or giving credit and linking them. Never.
If you're gonna say that we're soliciting money from other peoples' work, then anyone with a donate button that posts any music they didn't create, is doing the same. All of a sudden, the ripping of vinyl constitutes "somebody else's work"? Wow. .....wow.
s.fan: none of those pictures you posted prove anything beyond what i stated. the fact one of them is from record kingz proves my point even further. and for the record, i don't download any of your compilations because i don't need them so please stop dismissing me as some asshole who grabs shit you put up here and then rags on it. i think you are just trying to pull the wool over some people's eyes and i pulled your card on it. plain and simple. and until you post a real picture of the stuff you apparently 'ripped' as opposed to those generic pics i can find anywhere, i still won't believe you, and i think anyone with any common sense wouldn't believe you either.
ReplyDeleteverge: i can appreciate your commentary much more when you speak like an adult and don't decide to just rag on me. i have been ripping vinyl for 12 years, so believe me i know first hand how time consuming it can be. i was also a writer on rebirth magazine, which predates your blog by about 10 years, and have had my own blog/written for other blogs so i can understand that writing a post can be time consuming as well. and yes, there are a fair amount of informative posts on this blog, and i give you guys credit for those. However, let's take a look at this particular post, and hell any of s.fan's compilation posts. Is there any knowledge dropped here at all? Was there any research required for it beyond the guess-work of where rappers/groups were from? Lets see.. i get the insight that "K-Stone was a veteran of the Detroit Scene." Not even anything to back up that statement.. so the rest is his opinion on the tracks, so please, am i missing something here or what exact knowledge has been dropped in this post?
As far as soliciting money for other people's work.. thats exactly what you do when you post other people's rips on your site and then ask for donations. Check any of your OLU rips.. ironically enough, I believe FTD (yes I know they ripped those) took a shot at you guys on the last OLU rip you posted here. That's somebody else's work (the ripping of vinyl is work as it takes time and effort, which is essentially what work is), that you're posting here. It's a lot more work than giving your opinion on a bunch of mp3s that you collected and decided to put into a compilation. So if you think s.fan is 'putting in work' on these compilations, i don't see how the people who take the time and effort to rip them originally are not putting in time and work. and if you agree with my logic so far, then you can see why i made the statement of soliciting money for other people's work. The fact you want to bring up the argument of who created the music, blah blah, just leads me to believe that maybe you're not ripping the records you claim, because anyone I know who rips records considers that work.
A great example I can think of is noz over at cocaine blunts. He rips all of his own stuff, and never once asked for a donation until his computer died and REQUIRED money so that people could keep enjoying his site. The money went so that he could put in work for his site so that people could enjoy it. Not so that he could grab other peoples rips of mp3s, etc and then claim them as his own.
And perhaps I am mistaken, my ebay seller name is not spitler, but if you're name is Paul and you live in NJ, then yes, you did buy records from me.
just for the record, my last comment, which is about twice the length of s.fan's post and just as opinionated took me all of about 3 minutes to type and post. so if 3 minutes of writing your opinion = work to you verge? wow.... just wow...
ReplyDeleteand you mr. johnson were part of the load your mom should've swallowed. too bad she gave that shit up after she got fired from the sperm bank for drinking on the job.
ReplyDeleteSpitler, yes indeed, my real name is Paul and I live in Jersey. So yeah, I must have bought off you recently. I started going by verge and wrote toy ass graffiti in 1990, so it's no secret, I don't hide my id. Anyone can hit me at verge001@yahoo.com anytime. I still don't know exactly who you are though, but that's neither here nor there. I've only been online for under two years and can't possibly know everybody and their aliases.
ReplyDeleteYou originally got an overly defensive response from me because, as you know, you're not the first person to attack this blog. It's usually done by the same few suspect trolls.
Now, the OLU posts were taken from the T.R.O.Y. forum and some were my own rips. The ones taken from the forum, well, we didn't know they weren't from the people who posted them until after the fact. Anything after that, credit was given to FTD and wherever else they came from. Matter fact, anything not from us gets credit given to where it came from.
And it's strongly encouraged for anybody even on the forum to do so whenever possible.
I can't speak for where s.fan gets some of his rips from, personally. All I know is that I enjoy having the music separated by regional affiliation and I appreciate the work he does in doing so. Yes, he makes mistakes here and there, but it's okay, imo. The readers can help fill in the blanks and correct stuff, making it more fun and interactive, imo.
I don't just bow down to the "og ripper" thing much anymore because of all the arguments and pompousness that has unfolded over this issue. From people bragging about what they have and not sharing, to people acting like they deserve a vh1 honor award for sharing. I'm just tired of the entire argument, which is partially why you sparked a negative comment from me.
I strongly believe that anyone who shares music that is hard to find and actually good, is making their own contribution to the hip hop blogosphere. There's no way I would have gone tracking all this stuff in sfan's compilations down if he didn't make them.
The way people get so argumentative and possessive over it gets out of hand. The argument itself shouldn't exist.
Either share or don't.
A lot of people kinda miss the point of the internet. Which is partially to share and COMPILE information. Whether you take it from various places and make it into something that nobody else felt like doing or take some of your own music along with others and compile into it's own entity, as long as it's original.
I always prefer that the og uploaders get their credit, but I also understand that it's not always possible to remember every place or person you get everything from, all the time.
I've seen my rips out there plenty with no credit given to me and it doesn't bother me like it does other people. I'm just glad that good music is circulating. Of course, it would be nice if I was recognized for it, but so goes the internet. It's just a record. Now bigger things, like comprehensive pieces or focused compilations, are another story.
but verge, s. fan IS taking credit for rips that aren't his.. look at his "proof".. if anyone believes those pics belong to him, i got some land in florida for sale. (here's a tip s.fan, take the logos out of pics you're taking from other peoples websites before you claim them as your own)
ReplyDeleteGood comeback, spitler. You're still a punk, though.
ReplyDeletethanks roy.. just for the record though, calling people on their bullshit makes me a punk? i thought people who blatantly lied to people were punks, guess we have different definitions of punks.
ReplyDeleteum, i do own the cpc tape, the diffarent kombonation, and the p.o.p. tapes. they are on my shelves, regardless of how insecure you might be.
ReplyDelete14 of 21 tracks on bmore/dc 6 came from my OWN collection but that kind of thing seems to go in one ear and out the other with you. i'd be glad to take other pics but i don't think that would matter to you. you are convinced so any proof i could offer would mean nothing. shuffle off to your dark little corner of the internet again where people give a fuck what you think.
scheissefan: you see why nobody will take you seriously? you start off civil and then throw in that i'm insecure without any reasoning behind that? those pics you posted were clearly not from you. plain and simple.. you want to prove me wrong, take a picture (which you seem to be able to do with relative ease considering how fast you "proved" to me last time you owned them) of all 3 of them together, in one picture.. you can even put your cute little alias on a piece of paper if that will make you feel more secure about yourself. i'm not convinced of anything other than you seem to keep evading my questions and then taking shots at me with no basis? as for my dark little corner, well, lets see.. have you ever been interviewed by someone from the new yorker about the future of the music industry? cause i have. have you been featured in national print media concerning music? cause i have. so despite what your delusional worldview might be telling you, people actually do care what i think.
ReplyDeletewhere are the links ? what issue was your interview in ? until you scan the newspaper article and prove that you ARE IN FACT the person interviewed, you are full of shit. and taking shots ? jesus dude, instead of pointing out that hypnotic is from l.a. in the spirit of sharing information you use that as an excuse to minimize and dismiss what i do. how about YOU compile 361 regional compilations with ALL original rips of your own. until then you are a joke to me.
ReplyDeletei have NEVER claimed to get it right all the time, or that i own everything i compile. i do spend an inordinate amount of money on music which i use for compilations however. i just spent another 60 dollars on tapes recently which i will use for compilations but that isn't good enough for you apparently.
there is basically no point in doing this, but here's your fuckin' picture dude. jesus.
http://img714.yfrog.com/i/shitfansshityesiownthem.jpg/
also what's your ebay name ? if you sell music on ebay i want to make sure i am not supporting your snide attitude with MY money..
ReplyDeleteverge how long have you been waiting ?
ReplyDelete" just take one of some of what you've posted and i'll retract what i said "
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/508/tapeshelf3.jpg
more than 35 of the titles shown here are releases i have ripped and shared here in full or in part. i know that's probably not good enough for you either but i'm not trying to be in your little club.
my posts are about the MUSIC. your comments seem less like constructive criticism offered for the sake of sharing information and more like a vehicle for some wierd vendetta. it's not my problem that you need e-fame and attention.
wow, someone just got seriously owned. I'd personally feel so fucking ashamed if I was spitler aka 'usedwax' now. I've also bought a few records from the dude, but I'll never do it again. Matter of fact I'll also tell all the people who does to stop supporting him. But I guess he'll just change alias on the bay.
ReplyDeleteareal, as long as people know his real name and address, that wont help him.
ReplyDeleteThis is absolutely ridiculous. People VOLUNTARILY come to T.R.O.Y. to read our blog. If you don't like the bloggers, the post or how we conduct business then do not VOLUNTARILY check us. Nobody is putting a gun to your head. Nobody has ever forced anyone to give us respect or a donation. People appreciate the work that goes into this place and we return the favor by providing dope pieces day in and day out.
ReplyDeleteThis is no different from when ACTHEPD comments on Sounds Like The 90s. The reality is, if you aren't a fan then don't come here. I don't still eat at restaurants I don't like. I don't still talk to people I no longer like. Nobody, but nobody is forcing you to come here. Either be respectful or show some appreciation or just curb that negativity. We don't need it.
"i've already wasted more than enough time on this shit."
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree. Now get out of here.
Goodbye.
You already posted half of my info in an attempt to try to embarrass me, claiming your no more anonymous than I am. My info isn't all that hidden
ReplyDeleteand wouldn't really damage me, so don't act like your doing me a favor by not posting it.
yOu tried to disrespect this man's work to the point of demanding pictures. He provided them, you are still not satisfied.
Peace.
i know i said i'd leave it alone but i just want to address a couple things. Verge, no i was not trying to embarrass you, nor did i post 'half of your info', i simply asked if your name was indeed paul and you were in nj so i could confirm that you had indeed bought records from me and that you could just as easily know my information, thus negating your anonymous comment about me. and looking at the feedback left by both of us, it was a pleasant transaction, so i don't see the need to tarnish my ebay name (even though that's not my ebay name). if i really wanted to fuck with you paul, i'd post all your info or give it to the people who think your a bunch of bottom feeders, but i didn't, because outside of your childish attacks on me, i really don't have any issues with you besides your blind support of scheissefan. as for disrespecting his work, i just went over the first post i said, and here are my exact words:
ReplyDelete"it would be nice if these comps were actually put together with some knowledge as opposed to just grabbing a bunch of random mp3s and putting them together. easiest way to make sure you don't make mistakes like this? rip shit that you own, instead of just posting mp3s you collected."
i wasn't going at him sideways, and nothing i stated in the above, before all of you decided to take personal shots at me, was untrue. there was no knowledge dropped in this post, or am i missing the link to where the knowledge was dropped? its all opinion on scheissefan's part..as for the second part of what i said, i thought that was constructive criticism and not a shot at you guys whatsoever. that is the easiest way to make sure you have the proper info on the mp3s you post isn't it? would he have made the mistake i pointed out if he owned the album and ripped it from there? of course not, thus justifying what i stated. no shots fired, no sideways commentary, just the facts.
and yes he did post pictures, so i do retract my statement. however, all this going at me personally when all i did (as noted above) was provide some contrustive criticism as to how to avoid this problem entirely does nothing but raise questions in my (and other people's) minds.. why not just post that picture to begin with and everything would be settled? no having to attack people personally, just a professional way to end an argument. but you guys chose to attack me personally and not address the issues i raised. so yes, i will retract my statement with this caveat. just because he owns them, doesn't mean he rips them. i know this is just more fuel to the fire that i'm trolling you and blah blah blah.. but check this:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6610/p1010073oc.jpg
see look.. i have all those records which automatically means if you find an mp3 on the internet of one of those records, i must've been the one that ripped it. cause i have the mp3 of it and i have the record/tape/whatever, so naturally, logic-be-damned, i MUST'VE ripped every single one of those records. sure, that's reaching, but like i said, i wouldn't discount scheissefan's words so much if he had just come straight with answers instead of coming at ME sideways. anyhow, i think i am officially done unless someone else wants to come at me? then you can expect more comments from me, otherwise, i'll just stop kicking this dead horse.
@Schenectadyfan; I have most of K-Stone's material. If you want any information / rips you can give me a shout at silentpresents@gmail.com and I'll see what I can do.
ReplyDeletespitler, I have no more qualms with you. The only problem I had was that you came on here with negativity. It's not like you had left prior comments on other posts giving props. Our readers are more than welcome, if not, encouraged to challenge us. But this argument just didn't seem warranted, in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteFor the record: spitler is definitely not the ebay seller I thought he was. He's actually a pretty decent seller. So is the other guy, aside from that one problem.
There is no entire forum of people out there that calls us all bottomfeeders. Maybe some people from a certain forum do, but definitely not all. I know this because I am acquaintances with a few of them.
If they did, so it be.
And I highly doubt that anyone there has any personal problem with me to the extent that they would take my info and use it in a negative way.
But, whatever is whatever. End of story.
Peace.
verge.. glad that we can speak on this maturely now. can i please ask exactly where the negativity was in my comment (prior to you all taking personal shots at me)? and no, you are mistaken, i have commented before, in fact, commending scheissefan on a previous compilation, and here it is verbatim:
ReplyDeleteFebruary 4, 2010 5:26 PM
spitler said...
dope compilation.. coincidentally, i have that spectrum live single up on ebay for sale right now.. check it out @ http://shop.ebay.com/chcknorris79/m.html .. keep up the great compilations, thanks
so there you go, and there is my seller info for all those people who don't want to support me. no big loss for me, big loss for you if you want dope records though. i COMPLIMENTED schiesse on the compilation. and paul, trust me when i say that i won't spread your info, but also trust me when i say there were a fair amount of people who were willing to go at you personally when i linked them to this. but i don't need this to devolve to personal shit.
so.. to recap:
not only had i commended schiesse on his compilations prior to this, i didn't come negatively here (unless you can point out exactly what was negative about what i said? i'm at a loss and i'm not trying to be arrogant, in my opinion what i left was constructive criticism, not negative 'trolling' or whatever you want to call it) and thanks for the ringing endorsement as a seller. i hope this transgression doesn't prevent you from dealing with me in the future as i had no ebay problems with you and i will be putting up a grip of records very shortly that i encourage you to bid on.
peace.
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ReplyDeletei did not mean to look like such a self absorbed jackass that people would not longer support my ebay ego with their money. woops.
yes, because i was so concerned with the 1 person who might actually bid on my records not bidding anymore.. so concerned that i posted my ebay seller name so that people here can ignore my auctions all they like. i swear to god a fair amount of philaflava readers must be borderline retarded.
ReplyDeletewhen chuck norris speaks, EVERYBODY listens. and dies.
ReplyDeleteWHOA....
ReplyDeleteThis is some sh#$.
How could anyone think that you were being negative Spitler??? Well it is probably in the fact that your words were rather condescending. To make it easier for you to understand that word, it means talking down to someone. (See how that works). It is simply a change in tone. Instead of just pointing out what is wrong with something, maybe you should've pointed out that you know how much time or effort that they themselves have contributed to this blog, and that you found some misinformation. Then, if you really wanted to be a benefit to the process, you could've offered your knowledge and services for anything in the future. It could've been worded something like "Hey schenectadyfan, I have a vast collection and have a lot of knowledge about hip hop, I would love to help you guys out, especially with some of the back stories or tidbits on the compilitions."
This site has been a great source of material (both mp3 and information) to so many people. It also has continued to help so many readers feel reconnected to the great material that we have listened to in the past, and the enormous amount of music that feel through the cracks.
Forgive my tone on this but.... It really pisses me off to think that one person can come in (to this or any other blog), and drop an anonymous comment in a rather condescending manner, and make the contributer(s) to the website and the author question why the hell they are spending countless hours of their time, and their money, for such unappreciative a$$holes.
Whether, or not, this is how you wanted your comments take Spitler, this is probably how it was taken.
We need to have contributers, like the ones at TROY, to continue to do the jobs that they do. They help to provide the Public Library of Hip Hop running and available. Even if a couple of pieces have misinformation. If you know something is incorrect, hit them up and let them know, so that you helping the process. (Can you imagine trying to find the music and information one groups that are feature on these sites and compiltations, without the TROY's of world????)
Thank You TROY, schenectadyfan, verge, and the rest of you guys. I can't imagine enjoying the amount of quality hip hop material, without you guys. You guys truly enhance the Hip Hop scene.
Pooch
to recap:
ReplyDeleteSpitler is a sad doggy because he lost a Ebay Bidder.
woof
ReplyDeleteAnd all because I wanted to clarify who Hypnotic the Native Sun was. Sorry guys for sparking the drama here. I wasn't sure if you knew that particular MC was from the Bay or if there was another.
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